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Asset Allocation ETFs are like Pasta!

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Portfolios & Pasta!

Many years ago we visited some Italian friends for dinner. That was the first time I realised that pasta wasn’t meant to have a couple of pounds of stew heaped on top of it. Pasta in our house was usually over-boiled spaghetti, buried under lots of meaty-tomatoey stuff. Sometimes, we tossed in a few tablespoons of curry powder. Or maybe some jalapeños. And left-over spuds were always a no-brainer addition. Look, I’m not saying I didn’t enjoy some of these concoctions. But I was totally taken aback by how much I truly enjoyed the far simpler pasta that we experienced at our friends’ house. Portfolios are a bit like pasta in that respect. Sometimes, we can get carried away by having too many ingredients to choose from. Simpler can be better.

BlackRock’s iShares XGRO (20% fixed income) & XBAL (40% fixed income) have been available as all-in-one portfolio solutions since 2007. The arrival of the all-equity ETFs boosted interest in these off-the-shelf portfolios. In 2019, Vanguard Canada launched VEQT, their all-equity ETF. In that same year, the iShares XEQT ETF & Horizons (now Global X Canada) HEQT were also launched. And in 2022 we got BMO’s ZEQT. These funds are globally diversified, with about 45% of the allocation going to the US, 30% to Canada, & the remainder going to International, which includes a small allocation to emerging markets. These ETFs hold 10,000, or more, different company stocks from around the globe. That is some kind of diversification! And according to Harry Markowitz, a Nobel Prize-winning economist, diversification is the only free lunch in investing. There are a bunch of academic papers that support this level of diversification. While there are minor squabbles about percentages, or how great the American market is, I think some of us could benefit from using the allocation model employed by these highly diversified ETFs. Of course, that won’t stop us trying to mess with a good recipe from time to time, eh?

My own portfolio has gone through changes over the years. I was a growth investor at one time. Later, a dividend growth investor. Over time, new ETFs made it easier to chase the next hot sector or geography, so I started adding some of those. It wasn’t long before my portfolio looked more like one of my mad Irish-Indian-Mexican, & only vaguely Italian, pasta dishes! I finally got around to doing pasta the Italian way. It took me a little longer to learn how to apply that same keep-it-simple philosophy to my portfolio. But both cooking & investing are a little easier now. I will, however, admit that I occasionally toss a little hot pepper, or a little hot stock, into the recipe too!

Regardless of your preferred investment philosophy, there’s probably an all-in-one solution out there for you now. Along with the 100% equity ETFs, if you want 20% bonds, there are the V/X/ZGRO ETFs. The V/X/ZBAL ETFs cover the 40% bond allocation model. And so on. If you want the fund managers to take care of selling shares for you for income, BMO now has the T Series ETFs, like ZGRO-T & ZBAL-T. These ETFs dispense monthly income at the rate of 6% annualised. Now this distribution is well supported by recent market performance, but you should consult a professional to see if that 6% spending rate is sustainable throughout a lengthy retirement. Global X launched some funds for the high income investor. In 2023, EQCL provided a covered call & leveraged ETF that pays out at about a 12% rate. This sounds like a dream ETF &, since it was launched, it has been. Along with the fantastically high distribution, the underlying share price has continued to grow. But a 12% withdrawal rate might not be a safe bet for anyone starting out with a long retirement horizon. To complement this, Global X also have a globally diversified ETF with only covered calls. And another with only some leverage. What’s your favourite flavour?

With any fund that deviates from just holding & compounding plain old company stocks, it’s worth comparing its total return performance against an equivalent regular version. Regardless of huge differences in yield, total return comparisons offer a very useful perspective on relative performance. This is important to review during different parts of the market cycle. Many of these new funds look good, but they’ve only been active during a period of generally great market growth. Or with some smaller shocks that recovered quickly. Comparisons of these newer funds over recent shorter timelines are not as useful. Be wary of overly optimistic expectations until there’s some history of performance during longer or more severe downturns. Maybe these funds will do well. But getting it wrong with overly optimistic expectations can wreak havoc with retirement planning.

So what’s the message here? Having a big, sloppy, messy set of investments can add work & stress to the job of managing a portfolio. It’s worth comparing such a portfolio to the far simpler portfolios like those asset allocation ETFs we talked about above. If you are confidently outperforming an equivalent all-in-one or asset allocation fund, & if you don’t mind the work, then carry on doing what you’re doing. But if the off-the-shelf ETF is beating your portfolio over the long haul, you might want to ask why. Could the simple recipe be worth considering?

Of course you absolutely should consult a professional before you start moving investments around. There are so many things that can go wrong. You don’t want to get hit with a big tax bill from selling off investments in a taxable account, for example. Nor from shifting things between tax sheltered or tax deferred accounts incorrectly. That’s a huge no-no. Professional assistance may be required to avoid these, & other, potential pitfalls. And finally, if a big, sloppy, messy portfolio is underperforming by a significant amount, it may even be worth paying a professional to manage things. DIY investing isn’t something we’ve sworn an oath of allegiance to! At the very least, it may be worth interviewing a few financial planners & advisors, to get a feel for what they might do differently for you. Even if you decide to continue with the DIY approach, these encounters can be very educational. They may even help you create a better plan. You’ve already got a financial plan though, right?

Okay enough with all that for now, can you guess what’s for dinner tonight! 😜

If you want to learn more about saving & investing, please check out Double Double Your Money, available at your local Amazon store.

Important – this is not investing, tax or legal advice, it is for entertainment & conversation-provoking purposes only. Data may not be accurate. Check the current & historical data carefully at any company’s or provider’s website, particularly where a specific product, stock or fund is mentioned. Opinions are my own & I regularly get things wrong, so do your own due diligence & seek professional advice before investing your money.

Beware of Advice from Recent Retirees!

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Gambling on Retirement!

It’s unfair to tarnish all retirees with that statement, some might be offering great advice. But I’d be a little more circumspect about advice from those retirees advocating for earlier retirement because of their recent success. Some of these well-meaning folk might be suffering from recency bias. What’s that?

Anyone retiring in the past 15 years, with big stock market exposure, has probably been pretty lucky. Or, as they might prefer to see it … they are brilliant investors! This is especially true if their portfolio was biased towards the US markets. S&P500 Index® funds have returned close to 14% annually. The tech heavy Nasdaq 100 Index® has done even better.
I have to admit, some of them do look like investing geniuses!

Over the past decade & a half, it almost didn’t matter what strategy was employed. Just about any broad based American equity funds worked well. The growth investor did well & dividend investors did well. Investors who choose funds delivering huge yields via covered calls & partial leverage did well. They are all still doing well. Some of these retirees are mocking the old 4% Rule. As they sip frozen margaritas on a beach in the Caribbean! They are having a ball. And it’s hard to argue with success. But this might not apply to the next batch of retirees. And those with more limited finances need to be especially careful.

The 4% Rule is not a rule, it’s a rule of thumb. A guide only. But there are good reasons for its existence. Reasons that are at least broadly acknowledged by most. In a “normal” world, the safe withdrawal rate of 4% generally worked. In the “modern” world, it seems like you can haul out 12 or 13% every year & ride that gravy train all the way to the bank. Or the beach! That’s been the story for anyone retiring from 2010 onwards. The few blips we had along the way, like the one earlier this year, another in 2022, the 2020 downdraft for covid. They all repaired so quickly that nobody really noticed these as bad events. In fact, all those rapid blips did was reinforce the “buy the dip” philosophy. And, for those who didn’t panic, that has worked out very well.

But there will almost certainly come a time, where the dips will hurt a little more than these recent examples. There will be more enduring dips. And in such times, the 4% withdrawal rate may be more appropriate for managing retirement income risk. Ask anyone who retired in 2000. I’m not kidding, find an older retiree & ask. You probably won’t find them on social media! The experiences of more recent retirees is not how things always were. And while the good times are still rolling, they may not continue forever.
In case you can’t track down one of those older retirees, read this post on the Safe Withdrawal Rate in Retirement.

If you were planning on saving a million bucks before retiring, but you’ve only made it to half a million so far, pause a minute. Think very, very carefully about taking any advice that suggests you can retire immediately on your half-sized stash. Some recent retirees may think it’s okay to use 10% withdrawals nowadays. Or maybe they suggest that you can buy a bunch of funds yielding 10, 12, or even 15%, & go enjoy life sooner. This might not be good advice. Remember the old investing disclaimer: past performance is not indicative of future returns? In fact, it’s more likely going to be the opposite. After such an amazingly good run of returns, it’s far more likely that future returns will not be as good.

Look, I don’t know what the future holds. Maybe these enthusiastic retirees are right. But for anyone on the threshold of retirement, or for those younger retirees with a longer retirement timeline, caution is warranted. I’m sure I would enjoy spending a little more after a really good year of returns. And I’d probably do that again the following year, if there was another good year in the bank. But I would not start out a full retirement cycle of 20 or 30 years with the expectation that 10% a year is going to be the norm. While it’s not a commandment, I would treat that 4% Rule of Thumb with a little respect. I sure hope that we might still enjoy some good years of 5 or 6% spending. Who knows, maybe even a little more than that from time to time. Actually, let’s be honest here, I’m really hoping that 10% thing holds up for my retirement, from beginning to end! But I’m not taking that optimistic hope to the bank for the long haul. It’s probably not going to work as a good financial planning number!

If you can’t figure this all out on your own, please see a qualified financial planner & step through the process carefully with them. They will help you figure out how much you need to save to retire. And how much you might be able to spend during retirement. I know it’s expensive to work with a financial planner, but it might prove to be money well spent. Rather than finding out that you got it wrong half way through retirement.

If you want to learn more about saving & investing, please check out Double Double Your Money, available at your local Amazon store.

Important – this is not investing, tax or legal advice, it is for entertainment & conversation-provoking purposes only. Data may not be accurate. Check the current & historical data carefully at any company’s or provider’s website, particularly where a specific product, stock or fund is mentioned. Opinions are my own & I regularly get things wrong, so do your own due diligence & seek professional advice before investing your money.

Growth or Yield for Retirement Income?

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Growth or Yield?

Since Jack Bogle came up with the idea, it’s been difficult to beat a market index portfolio for total return. This approach can work well over decades of saving & investing for retirement. But we can feel differently about things as we get older. After a lifetime of picking up a regular paycheque, we’d really like a regular paycheque in retirement too, eh? And if there isn’t a nice pension ready to deliver that paycheque, income investing might have appeal.

Interest rates & bond yields have declined over the past couple of decades, so not much income to be had there. Even old-fashioned dividends have declined, particularly in the US equity market, as valuations increased. Some years ago, fund companies realised the boomer retirement market was in search of bigger income streams. In response, they created covered call funds with higher distribution yields. More recently, fund creators are adding some leverage. This not only boosts the distribution yield, but it also boosts the potential to recover the some of the return that covered call writing tends to lop off. Here’s one example of how this might work …

This is a simple comparison between HYLD (Hamilton Enhanced U.S. Covered Call ETF) & VSP (Vanguard S&P 500 Index® ETF). Hamilton describes HYLD as having an “overall sector mix broadly similar to the S&P 500®”. Since it’s hedged back to the Canadian dollar, we are comparing it to VSP, from Vanguard Canada, which is also hedged. The equivalents from iShares (XSP) & BMO (ZUE) would also work for this. HYLD has only been around since February 2022, so it’s far too short a time to say how it will fare over the long-term. For this exercise, I trimmed off the first year’s performance for HYLD. Because it contained some third party funds that might have impacted performance. These were gradually replaced by Hamilton’s own funds & performance improved. Though it shortens the timeline, I think it is a fairer comparison for guesstimating what it could look like going forward.

With all dividends & distributions reinvested from March 2023 up to July 25th, 2025, the result sees VSP compounding at a shade over 21.6% annually & HYLD comes in at 20.9%. Over that time HYLD actually took the lead occasionally but, for the most part, they tracked very closely together. I think it’s fair to call it a tie. For a $100k investment, VSP would have grown to about $160.5k, while HYLD would have turned into about $158.2k. In contrast, the yield from VSP is only about 1%, while HYLD is currently throwing off almost 13%. Despite the huge difference in yield, the total return is virtually identical.

Each investing strategy brings its own unique challenges for a retiree. The “growth” investor has to decide how many shares to sell to augment the income. The “income” investor has to decide how much of the distribution should be reinvested to ensure the success of the portfolio into the future. That’s a bit of a challenge for either one, so we’ll start by paying out $1,000.00 a month. That’s a simple annual withdrawal rate of 12% based on the starting value. And, to keep pace with inflation, we’ll adjust the income stream over time. Since the annualised growth rates were over 20% for both funds, that sounds reasonably conservative, eh? With this arrangement, both funds deliver an identical income stream of just over $29k to the investors over the almost two & a half year period. After all withdrawals, HYLD has an end value of $122.2k, with $124.2k in VSP. Again, little to no difference. This is a great outcome for both investing strategies.

Along with a great monthly cheque, the other important thing here is that the remaining value of both portfolios, after all withdrawals, is well up from the original $100k invested. Using the Bank of Canada’s inflation calculator, a portfolio value of $100k at the start of 2023 would equate to a value of about $107.5k in 2025. Since both funds are well ahead of this number by the end of the comparison, that bodes well. In fact, we could have started with a $1,400.00 dollar monthly withdrawal & the end values of both funds would have been in line with the inflation adjusted portfolio value needed for the future. But my crystal ball was broken back in 2023, so I took a safer path! 😜
That larger withdrawal amount would have been a withdrawal rate closer to 17%. Wow!

Some huge words of caution about this example: 12% is not a typical withdrawal rate over the course of a 30 year retirement. High yield percentages can not automatically be used as a withdrawal rate either. It may be possible for a time, but we also need to keep an eye on the underlying share price. And on the trajectory of the income stream. Is it going up or down? Are we keeping up with inflation? Unfortunately, we have to plan for an uncertain future. We can’t depend on the markets delivering consistently incredible returns over a long retirement timeline. Indeed returns are very uncertain over any future timeline, long or short. Look at the total return profile of your portfolio, not just the yield. In this case, there are older S&P 500 Index® funds that can be back-tested to show how precarious retirement life can be. At times, withdrawal rates much closer to 4% were required. It will be interesting to see if some of the newer funds can do better.

There are some very good reasons that the 4% Rule (of Thumb!) was used as a baseline for evaluating retirement plans. These days, a financial planner will use some pretty sophisticated software to plot out what’s possible for a given set of circumstances & predictions. In addition, the plan may produce higher or lower income streams based on individual investor choices. Financial plans should be reviewed regularly. Each new year starts with the new return estimates. Along with age revisions (money needed for fewer years with each passing year!), revised needs & wants, etc. And, of course, the current portfolio value is now the new portfolio value for planning the rest of the retirement journey. An investor that is willing & able to tolerate large income swings from one year to another may be able to sail closer to the wind on higher withdrawals. As would a retiree with a large guaranteed income stream from pensions, for example. Without that safety net, it can be far more challenging. The superb performance of the US markets for the past decade or more might have us believing that there are unicorns & leprechauns underneath all the rainbows & sunbeams. Tread very carefully. For most of us, it’s likely worth shelling out for a professional financial planning review to see what’s possible. The good & the bad.

One last thing: regardless of which strategy you favour, it’s usually worth listening to the other point of view. I know both growth & income investors that are killing it with their chosen strategy. Then there are some that aren’t quite sure how well, or how poorly, they are doing. We can all learn something new, eh? There may even be circumstances, both data driven & psychological, that encourage using a combination of strategies to navigate retirement. It’s usually worth taking the time to see a different perspective. And it might help to Benchmark Your DIY Portfolio against one of those recommended by experts & professionals in the field. Knowing how your portfolio behaves may help with engagement during the financial planning conversion.

Happy retirement spending!

If you want to learn more about saving & investing, please check out Double Double Your Money, available at your local Amazon store.

Important – this is not investing, tax or legal advice, it is for entertainment & conversation-provoking purposes only. Data may not be accurate. Check the current & historical data carefully at any company’s or provider’s website, particularly where a specific product, stock or fund is mentioned. Opinions are my own & I regularly get things wrong, so do your own due diligence & seek professional advice before investing your money.

Safe Withdrawal Rate in Retirement

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Take Care of those Pennies!

After a lifetime of saving for retirement, spending what we’ve saved can get pretty messy. Even a flock of pros would all come up with a different, at least slightly, spending plan for each of us. We don’t want to go broke too early. But we don’t want to make our retirement miserable by not spending enough either!

While it’s not actually a rule, the so-called “4% Rule” is often used as a guideline for determining a safe withdrawal rate over a 30 year retirement timeline. The rule suggests we can take out 4% the first year of retirement & take out inflation adjusted amounts (i.e. 4% + inflation adjustment) every year thereafter. And we can do that for 30 years, with a high degree of probability that the portfolio will make it all the way to the end. Bill Bengen originally used a portfolio of US stocks & bonds to develop this strategy. In recent years, he created a more diversified portfolio that he calculates allows a higher withdrawal rate of around 5%. Other experts point to the greater capability of an all-equity portfolio to deliver improved lifelong results. And still other experts in the space present models that suggested we might have to drop down closer to a 3% withdrawal rate to ensure portfolio survival. What gives?

There are a few things to consider here. The markets, particularly the US market, have produced great returns over the past decade & a half. An investor, convinced of the strength of the US market, who retired in 2010, might be looking like an investing genius today! Since 2010, a million dollar portfolio, all invested in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust (SPY), being drawn down at an inflation-adjusted rate of 4%, would have a portfolio value of over $5m today. Not a typo. Using the 4% withdrawal methodology for more than 15 years, the portfolio would still have grown to a value of over five million dollars today. This retiree could have withdrawn a whopping 12% for year one. And, even after increasing that far bigger income by inflation every year, the portfolio would still be worth almost a million bucks today. That is an amazing outcome, eh?

Yeah, it is. But we can’t always take big withdrawal rates to the bank!

Let’s jump back another 10 years & look at a retiree who quit working in 2000. Exactly the same scenario as above. This retiree also has a million dollar portfolio & starts out with a $40k withdrawal the first year, or 4%. By today, the portfolio is only worth just under $340k. Even less in inflation adjusted value. What happened to the five million bucks from the previous scenario? The lost decade, including the dot-com crash & the great financial crisis, is what happened! Early poor returns damaged the future value of the portfolio.

If this “Year 2000 retiree” had used the 12% withdrawal rate from the other example, the Year 2000 portfolio would have gone to zero by 2006. Yes … zero. Nothing left after only 6 years. This is not a good outcome. In fact, just blindly following the 4% guideline in this example would have been a cause for worry by today. And withdrawing much more than an inflation-indexed 4% would almost certainly have resulted in a portfolio that died before the investor did!

Those examples are from the past. But the big lesson is that there is no guarantee that the future will be all rainbows & sunshine. We need a plan that handles grey skies & storms too. As we progress through retirement, financial plans must be reviewed & revised on a regular basis. To account for changes in the markets & in our lives. There may be the potential to increase our income for greater enjoyment during some years. Or there may be a requirement to reduce spending, to ensure we have income to the end of our days. Flexibility may be required en route.

And that’s what makes retirement planning so challenging. Financial planning is not a set it & forget it deal. As we saw above, we can’t depend on a financial plan that was created in 2000 or 2010 delivering the same results all the way to today. Modifications along the way are warranted. Similarly, if we were to start retirement this year, it is very unlikely that a financial plan created in 2025 will see us, cleanly & smoothly, all the way to the end. Will our asset allocation selections & portfolio choices allow us to spend way more than 4% every year? Or will we get trapped in a scenario where even 4% might be too aggressive? If we don’t use the 4% Rule, how do we handle the added burden of inflation through the years? There are a few challenges there, eh!

Some investors put their trust in dividend growth portfolios to sustain a growing income stream for a lifetime. And a plethora of new high income funds are proving very popular with investors who see early retirement calling via funds with huge distributions. Can these alternatives work? Some of these new funds offer distributions of 10 or 15%, some even more than that. Imagine you need a million dollar portfolio to produce 4%, or $40k, of annual income to retire on. If you’ve only got $400k saved, how about building an ETF portfolio yielding 10% & calling it quits? This might work. Or it might not. We’ll have to look at how we might compare, & perhaps even combine, these different strategies. However, that’s a whole other bunch of numbers & I’m getting grumpy now, so we’ll leave those questions for another day.

Meantime, take care out there & make sure you have an up-to-date financial plan.

If you want to learn more about saving & investing from the ground up, I’d like to suggest that you check out Double Double Your Money, available at your local Amazon store.

Important – this is not investing, tax or legal advice, it is for entertainment & conversation-provoking purposes only. Data may not be accurate. Check the current & historical data carefully at any company’s or provider’s website, particularly where a specific product, stock or fund is mentioned. Opinions are my own & I regularly get things wrong, so do your own due diligence & seek professional advice before investing your money.

DIY Financial Planning … Is it for You?

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Retirement Planning Made Easy!

I’m jumping the gun on this one, but I’m so excited to have stumbled across this financial planning tool that I want to share it with you now. Funny enough, Microsoft’s Copilot chatbot introduced me to this. I asked Copilot to help with a financial plan & after providing some insights & encouragement, the first link it provided was to planeasy.ca. This led me to their financial planning platform adviice.ca. While I’ve only played with it for a few hours yet, I’m really excited about what these guys are doing. And what this platform can do for DIY investors who are also doing DIY financial planning.

One of the drivers for DIY investors to do the DIY thing is our frugal nature. We want to save on investment & advisory fees so that we keep more of our money. That may, or may not, work out well for us, but we just can’t escape the desire to be frugal. This frugal nature also extends to financial planning. Though many DIY investors recognise the value of a financial plan, we tend not to want to pay the fee for having a plan done professionally. And no wonder, it’s not difficult to find fees in the two to five thousand dollar range for having a single financial plan prepared by a professional. Despite the value, that’s still a lot of coin for a one-shot deal. I’m not sure what plan revisions would cost in subsequent years, but it’s fair to assume that as time goes by & circumstances change, it probably makes sense to have the plan updated periodically.

Enter Adviice.ca!

If you’ve watched YouTube® videos on financial planning, you’ll have seen them use software for those sexy charts & graphs that are easily modified for viewing different scenarios. We know we want this, but the software isn’t available to non-professionals in many cases. And some of us are unwilling to pay the price for the professional to do a plan. The Adviice.ca platform costs $9 for a 30 day trial. And $9 a month if you decide to keep the subscription. At these prices, that’s almost 28 years of DIY financial planning for the same cost as one $3,000 plan! There are so many threads to weaving an accumulation or retirement plan. It is very difficult to do it on a notepad or with spreadsheets. Adviice does the calculation grunt work in the background & shows the results in an easy-to-read visual format. It’s also updated to reflect current details on taxation, government income streams, etc. At this point, I haven’t played with the platform for long enough to write a review. Frankly, I’m not qualified to do a real review anyway. The best I could do is provide a DIY appraisal of what I’ve found. However, this post is more about my early enthusiastic reaction to finding it & using it.

Within 2 hours of signing up for this platform, I had a rough-tuned retirement plan done. Much of that time was spent inputting the foundational data. It took another couple of hours to learn enough about how it worked to improve on the first pass. This particular plan embraces a situation that covers another three or four years of working, reviewing different RRSP drawdown strategies, looking at the tax implications of different withdrawal rates across different account types, & so on. I still have much to learn & a lot of fine-tuning to do, but I think I’ve got a pretty respectable financial plan pulled together already. Now the beauty of this is that you can spend as long as you want fine-tuning a plan. Or, to avoid the law of diminishing returns, you can book a one hour session with an advisor at Planeasy, or with other professionals using the platform. You can do this right within the Adviice platform. And for only $499! Or you can book a more comprehensive package for $1,999.00, which could include multiple retirement scenarios, additional tuning sessions, etc. The beauty of this offering is that you can do the DIY thing at a low cost, but then you can add some professional assessment at a lower price than the typical financial planning service might cost. Along with pandering to the hands-on thing favoured by many DIY folk, this could be a cost-effective combination of DIY & professional advice.

Rather than share screenshots, which won’t capture the full scope of what this platform really does, here’s a link to a PlanEasy YouTube® video that covers one example of doing a retirement plan for a couple. It captures a lot of the features & functionality of the system. If you’ve watched financial planning videos in the past, you’ll find a lot you can relate to in this. This clip shows the software with the green PlanEasy branding, mine has the blue Adviice branding, but is otherwise identical. Though there may be some additional features on the latest version. It’s not yet a perfect solution for all scenarios. I’d like to try scenarios where I pass away earlier than my spouse, for example. You can work around most of these limitations by manually adjusting the data columns, but it looks like they are working on improving the functionality & adding features on an ongoing basis. I joined their Reddit® group (r/adviice) where you’ll see feature requests & the company’s responses to these. They are really quick to respond to questions.

The biggest limitation to the client version that I’ve seen, so far, is that we can only create one foundational data set. In other words, short of starting over, we can only do our own plan, for a single or a couple. And that’s fair enough. The advisors pay more & can obviously prepare plans for multiple clients. For those who take advantage of a session with an advisor, the advisors can then use our base plans to add their professional input on top of ours. I guess part of the reason we can get the lower cost professional oversight is because we have already done the work to build the foundational data set. We can still, however, create multiple scenarios based on our own foundational data set. That allows us to explore different accumulation & withdrawal strategies, & so on.
The other limitation is that we cannot create reports. Those are delivered to us after a session with an Adviice advisor. That too is fair. It would be possible to change the foundational data to create reports for others if this was open. Just doing the DIY thing for ourselves, we can get all the relevant info right on the screen. And we can export the plan’s data, for those who want to play with the numbers in a spreadsheet. The reports are not essential for getting value from this software.

Bottom line is that I think this is the first affordable solution that is accessible for Canadians who want to be more involved in creating their own financial plan. Not only is it more affordable to begin with, but it may offer access to professional planning & fine tuning at a more affordable price too. It is a really smart product approach from this company. I think they will find many takers at $9 a month that might otherwise never have spent a penny on financial planning. And I think many of those takers will avail of the tune-up sessions with a professional advisor. And there will be those who will take advantage of the larger, more comprehensive professional support packages too. I hate this way-overused phrase, but this product has all the feel of one of those really good win-win solutions!

If I’m sounding like I work for these guys, I apologise, but I have absolutely no affiliation. I found it last weekend & I ponied up the $9 within 10 minutes of reading about it. Within an hour of playing with it, I knew this was going to be an enjoyable experience. When I compare the number of hours I spend with calculators & spreadsheets trying to do all this, Adviice is a great option for me. However, learning anything new does require some brain activity. And it might not be suitable for everyone. Of course, we all know that we need to challenge our brains as we age. And learning to use this will certainly exercise the brain.
In my case, that might be a bonus! 😜

Despite my enthusiasm, I would also strongly caution against using this as the total solution to a problem that you might not fully understand. If you don’t know enough to have confidence in your current DIY financial plan, you might not know enough to understand if the results produced by Adviice are good enough to live by. Particularly when it comes to depending on a plan that needs to survive your retirements years. I know I’ll enjoy playing & refining a plan with these tools going forward. But I will also take advantage of a one hour session with a professional down the road. Just in case I’ve screwed it up.
Please be careful here!
It may turn out that this product is not suitable for you. But if you enjoy doing this kind of thing, & if you are spending a lot of time with spreadsheets & online calculators, I highly recommend investing the $9 to test drive it.

While I have focused on the older demographic in the course of this conversation, this is also of potential value for the young accumulator.
At long last, there is almost an app for this stuff! LOL

A more recent update on using the Adviice.ca platform can be found at DIY Financial Planning… An Update

If you want to learn more about saving & investing from the ground up, I’d like to suggest that you check out Double Double Your Money, available at your local Amazon store.

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